Thread:CureHibiki/@comment-25034020-20171216114835/@comment-31119526-20180130113820

Way back in January 2017 we talked about eradicating all the chourous and kouchous and kyoutous. As I recall, the admins agreed, but no one showed much enthusiasm for doing all the work. I ended up creating a disambiguation page, but the work was never completed. At around that time, someone alse suggested to make me an admin, and I joked that it wouldn't be a good idea because of what I could do to this poor wiki, referring to my idea of getting rid of these forms of address that people somehow assumed to be names. Nothing came of it back then, but recently I was made an admin. I haven't had time to work on these things, but I still plan on ridding the wiki of all the instances of "Chourou", "Kouchou" and "Kyoutou". I was thinking I'd get around to that when HuPC is underway, conveniently taking people's attention away from the most recent Elder so there won't be as much resistance to such changes. You've made me reveal my evil schemes prematurely >:)

To reiterate my explanation from a year ago, which admins agreed with, "chourou" is merely a form of address, it is not a name. As such it should be translated like any normal word, not left untranslated as if it were a name. Calling him "Elder" doesn't change anything about him, it actually makes it clearer what his relationship is to the other fairies. We have had other fairy elders before, in Futari wa/Max Heart and again in Fresh. Their roles were pretty much the same as the KKPCALM elder. The one in Fresh didn't appear much, but the one in Futari wa/Max Heart appeared at least as much as, or even more than the KKPCALM one. If we can call those two simply "Elder", then we can call the KKPCALM one "Elder" too.

The same goes for "kouchou-sensei". It's just a normal word meaning "principal" that's used as a form of address. That's more common in Japanese than in English, but even so it's not unusual in English to call someone in that function "Principal" instead of their name. Same for "Kyoutou-sensei", meaning "vice-principal". We have had characters with both these roles and forms of address before, in Futari wa/Max Heart and again in Yes5/GoGo. They weren't called "Kouchou" and "Kyoutou" back then as if those are names either.

So there's no reason to make exceptions for MTPC's Principal and Vice-principal and KKPCALM's Elder. All of those have occured before, the more recent ones aren't more specialer. They're titles, not names, so we should translate them properly. Yes, that makes it ambiguous when you talk about an "Elder", but it was ambiguous to begin with. Calling one of them Elder in Japanese and the other two Elder in English doesn't make things clearer, it make things unclearer.